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The Rams are the mob bosses of the NFL. There are trades left, right, and center. Chicago Bears are leaving Chicago. Everything, all the chaos, and more on the other side. What is going on, fellas? Yo yo ho, what's up? Matthew starting off the show with yo ho. Yo, yo ho.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

Yo yo.

SPEAKER_03 0:40

Yo, yo. I heard yo ho, yo ho, yo ho. Yo ho, yo ho. Um what's going on, fellas? It's been a while. It's been a while. It has been a while. Uh thank you to every single person that asked me if we were physically alive. A lot of people were concerned I was dead. Oh shit. Yeah, there was you or no, no, they thought I was dead, and therefore, like the podcast was not getting uploaded, and there's no like anything happening. So no, no, all is well. All is well. Um, while not all is well for um some teams, we'll get into all that. But fellas, what is right now your favorite singer? Could be a rap artist, could be a singer. Who who do you think is killing it right now?

SPEAKER_01 1:21

I really like Drake's new shit. I know I'm I'm saying home, I'm staying homer to Canada, but but his new his new shit's uh yeah, his new shit's good. Shit's good. You know what?

SPEAKER_03 1:30

That's three for three for Drake. I just want everybody, all those Drake haters to know there's a reason why the segment started this way. Drake, Canada on top. Iceman, what an album. What what albums? Well great work. You know who's not having a good time right now? Morgan Wallen canceled his second show in Pittsburgh.

SPEAKER_01 1:47

Yeah, I know I saw that because of weather, but it looked pretty good. The weather was was nice. Yeah, he just kind of effed off.

SPEAKER_03 1:53

He did the first venue, Acucher Stadium.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

Yeah, Acture Stadium, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:57

We were there, we saw maybe he's just on the Steelers van.

SPEAKER_03 2:01

I don't know. Well, he's from Tennessee, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, so that was interesting. A lot of people are upset about that. What are your guys' thoughts? Is that because I feel like it is they said it was a safety concern for the fans that were attending the show that he couldn't make it. But I feel bad for all of those guys that like you know bought it's not just the tickets. Obviously, people are like, the tickets will get refunded. It's all it's like you pay for an Airbnb, you take time off work.

SPEAKER_01 2:28

You he's not the first artist as it's no, it could just be burnout, yeah, just getting tired and and not too much Pramanti Brothers.

SPEAKER_02 2:36

Well, or he's got another album released down the road. Oh, oh hey Drake did that one year, really?

SPEAKER_03 2:42

Yeah, well, KK remembers KK remembers.

SPEAKER_02 2:44

I remember because I had tickets and then he cancelled it and we did it a few months later.

SPEAKER_03 2:49

I'm gonna ask you, KK, as the esteemed veteran on the show, not to age you, of course, you are a young at heart um slow jazz love making machine. Um MJ or Prince? Who MJ Who was bigger at the time? Like, was there ever was there ever a time you think that they they were neck and neck? Like they were close.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

Maybe well and I wasn't into that, but when I was growing up, it was MJ.

SPEAKER_03 3:17

Because the Prince of Song was Purple Rain.

SPEAKER_02 3:20

Purple Rain, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:21

Yeah, no, I I the reason why I asked this is like But the lifespan was always MJ. Still is. Well, yeah, of course, like the latest movie that just came out from for him, and yeah, I thought it was very um, it was very fucked up um that Netflix decided to release his trial documentary because they didn't get the rights to the movie documentary.

SPEAKER_01 3:43

Oh, is that right?

SPEAKER_03 3:44

And they decided to sabotage um that one special moment. And you know what? Speaking of teams sabotaging a special moment, I want to jump into the Chicago Bears.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 3:55

The day, the day of the unveiling, Caleb Williams, Madden 27. It's beautiful. They did a whole two-hour event. Shout out to our friends at EA Sports. We'll talk about that in the coming episodes. We've got some things stored up with them. But they did a great event. Caleb's on the ice, he's also called Iceman. He's on the cover. He had a great season, everything's great. June 5th, 2026, Bears Board of Directors voted to advance the stadium plans in Hammond, Indiana. Now, this is the first time the Bears Board has formally voted on any stadium site. Um Adam Shafter's quote on the situation was there is more work to do, but barring anything very strange, it's a done deal. Now, the exact site is still to be determined. Bears are looking near the Wolf Lake area in Hammond, Indiana. For some context, um painting the picture here. So the Bears have played at Soldier Field since 1971. It is the NFL's oldest stadium. It opened in 1924. Um in 2023, the Bears purchased a 326-acre Arlington Heights property for $197.2 million for a potential stadium. Illinois legislature repeatedly failed to pass property tax relief and infrastructure commitments for the Bears project. CEO Kevin Warren stated Illinois' leadership told them the project will not be a priority in 2026. Now you move forward, sorry, you move back to February 2026, Indiana governor Mike Braun signed SB 27, authorizing up to $1 billion in incentives for a Hammond stadium. Hammond is approximately 28 miles from downtown Chicago. It's still technically the quote Chicagoland region. Hammond's population is 75,700. Purdue University Northwest has a campus there. Now, before I get into your guys' takes on this, there are some quotes that have come out from key individuals that are responsible for this decision making. Bearish Chairman George McCassie. We believe a world-class stadium project in Hammond will transform the region connecting northwest Indiana to the south side of Chicago. Illinois governor on Indiana's offer. Indiana is willing to raise taxes and promise $1 billion in taxpayer funds. Illinois has focused on the needs of working families. Now there are some comparables to this, obviously. We know about the Raiders moving to Oakland. Um sorry, Raiders moving from Oakland to Vegas in 2020. You know, you saw the San Diego Chargers go to LA 2017. The Rams also went back to LA from St. Louis. But the Bears, you know, being one of the founding franchises, 1920, originally the Decouter Stales. That was their team name. Now, I'll ask both of you. I'll start with Matt. One of the founding franchises of the NFL leaving the city of Chicago, how does that land with you?

SPEAKER_01 7:09

It doesn't sit well with me. It's kind of heartbreaking. I think to think of what the Bears did last year in the playoffs and how the fans just rallied around them. I don't see how the state of Illinois can't just, you know, say to the fans of Chicago and the city and Bears fans, just be like, you know, your taxpayer dollars, if you if you want to keep the team where it where it belongs, really, because I truly believe it belongs in Chicago in the downtown area. And if they can't make it happen, I know another name, Arlington Heights, is pretty close by, but still in Illinois, you know, still really close to Chicago. So if you just I think what it comes down to is you need the fan support to make this happen. And maybe it's it, you know, you need a big investor coming out of the Chicago region and area, or a bunch of investors, but the whole thing of it moving to Indiana is pretty heartbreaking because I don't think you can call them the Chicago Bears after that.

SPEAKER_03 8:12

Yeah, and there and I agree with you in that state. I mean, there are some examples of you have like New Jersey's hosting um the Giants and the Jets, correct? Right? Like that is an example of a team that has has gone there, but I'll ask KK. Same question. How's it land?

SPEAKER_02 8:32

I feel bad for Chicago because you can't move a team across state lines.

SPEAKER_03 8:36

No, because a lot of people that are from Chicago, they're we saw this in Washington. How many people did we meet that had a record?

SPEAKER_02 8:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:44

How how many people we met in Pittsburgh?

SPEAKER_02 8:46

Back in the day, you don't cheer for the team on the other side of that state line. Yeah. But I can see why they're moving to Hammond. It's not just building a football stadium, they want to build like an entertainment district at that stadium.

SPEAKER_03 9:00

Well, we went to we went to Dallas. Obviously, Arlington is built around ATT Stadium.

SPEAKER_02 9:05

You look at Texas Live, you look at other I can see why they want to move to Hammond, Indiana, because you know they want to not only a stadium for the fans, but it's all entertainment. It's a business.

SPEAKER_03 9:16

Do you think that this is strictly business? Or do you think like there's more to this? Like, because I it's business. I feel like there's a little bit more because I don't really feel I'm gonna be maybe I'm alone in this, but I don't I find it hard to be sympathetic for billionaires. And me, me too.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

Like, why can't that owner build a stadium in Chicago?

SPEAKER_03 9:39

I feel really hard to do.

SPEAKER_02 9:40

But see, the thing is it's not about the players, Chicago Bears, and the fans and the owner. It's it's all about making all about the money, it's all about the money. All the restaurants, hotels, they want an entertainment district.

SPEAKER_03 9:53

And the thing is, is the the reason why football stadiums are high contentious, and like you see, this is like there's not a lot of uses for them when that's the offseason.

SPEAKER_02 10:04

That's kind of why the Raiders moved from Oakland to the Vegas, yeah. Entertainment district.

SPEAKER_03 10:08

And there's and you look at you look at um big like these big stadiums that hold 100,000 people, they're not great for acoustics. There's a lot a lot of entertainers like to go to the smaller NHL basketball arenas because it's better for sound, it's easier to mount up their stages, it's easier to do all that. It's harder to do it in these big stadiums.

SPEAKER_02 10:27

Not a lot of guys can the big question now is they don't want to the taxpayers in Chicago don't want to fund it. No. Well are the are the people of Hammond gonna pay up their taxes for that? Well, it would be I don't think so.

SPEAKER_03 10:40

It would be the whole entire state of Indiana, and if I'm a person that lives farther away from Indiana, I'd be pissed.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:47

Why the fuck am I tax dollars funding the Chicago Bears? Yeah, yeah, I don't care about the Chicago Bears. I cheer for the Colts, or they cheer for exactly somebody else if you have some brain cells. But my point in that is also I don't know if the residents of Chicago don't want this. These are Illinois governors making these decisions. And I'm we try not to be very political on this show. We don't really like to get into medi into the waters, but I will take a step in that direction. Chicago as a state has received under the Biden administration large sums of money to improve, revitalize the South Side of Chicago. They've received large sums of money to house immigrants. And the immigrants, like what is like they they would pack up a bus of immigrants that were undocumented or whatever, or criminals, or whatever the case may be, and they would ship them to the south side of Chicago, and Chicago is collecting checks off that.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

Yeah, yet the the government's saying we want to focus on those things.

SPEAKER_03 11:47

And I we don't want to focus on taxpayer dollars going to a new stadium, and I find it really hard to sympathize with Chicago's um, I find it really hard to sympathize with Chicago's mayor, their government bodies, just because I'm like they haven't improved the cell side, they haven't improved Chicago, they've they've just let people die. People die at an abnormal rate in Chicago for due to violence, due to drugs, due to other reasons. And it's like you you've been collecting taxes and spending them on quote working families, but working families still have to grow up in unsafe neighborhoods. Working families still are worried their kids are not going to return home. So do I really trust that you're gonna make the right decision? I don't, and I think this is to put more pressure on the city of Chicago, this is to put more pressure on the uh state of Illinois because guess what, guys? The Cubs, the Chicago Cubs might be next.

SPEAKER_02 12:48

Yeah, I love it. There's gonna be a lot of teams in all the sports that are gonna go to where they need new arenas, like Wrigley Field, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:57

Like that is a storied, storied stadium, like they might be next, they might be like, no, we're out of here too. Um now going on the other end, if you were Indiana, would you put up a billion dollars of public money to land the Chicago Bears?

SPEAKER_02 13:14

No.

SPEAKER_01 13:16

I mean, as a as a taxpaying resident, I would hate it. That's what it is. But I mean, as somebody who has money invested in it, depending on what they're gonna build, if there's gonna be a big entertainment center there, well, that's what it is hotels, restaurants, then it might bring in a lot of money.

SPEAKER_03 13:33

I mean, but in Hammond Indiana, but are people gonna go to Hammond, Indiana? Like, my thing is like it's not really a destination, it's not like there's not much there, you know. Like it's I think you're gonna, you're gonna you're gonna break that brand, man. I think you leave if you leave Chicago and you leave the state of Illinois, you're gonna lose a lot of fans. I don't think the brand for the bear I they've seen a lot of shit the Shoggle Bears fans have. And I think a lot of diehard fans, a lot of diehard fans have watched this team be very, very bad for a very long time, and they finally have something to be excited about. Yeah, and the owner knows it, and the owner is about to pull the rug under their seat unless they put pressure on they're they're basically what you said, it's up to the fans. The owner is forcing the fans to go write letters, do this. Yeah, and it's really fucked if you think about it. Because if the owner really wanted to, I'm sure he could call a couple of his buddies, set up a fund, and build the stadium.

SPEAKER_02 14:27

Yeah, that's how it should be, right?

SPEAKER_03 14:30

If he really cared, if he really shouldn't be down to taxpayer money, I I think they should protest the owner. I think they should. I think they should they should there should be more heat on the owner being like, if you really cared about Chicago or the state of Illinois or the fans of the Chicago Bears, you'd have no problem talking to three, four, but get call Kanye West. I'm sure he'd love to be a part of this. Call somebody else that's from Chicago, from that area, like that is like a prominent figure. Get them behind you, build the bid. I'm sure there will be a stadium or sell the fucking team. Yeah, like if you can't afford to build the stadium and you're complaining and bitching and complaining about it, then maybe you don't have enough money. Maybe you should just sell the team.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

It's also funny. Like, if you were a tourist and you were like, Oh, I want to go to America, you know, say you're from overseas in Europe or whatever, and you're like, Oh, let's go to Chicago, and you go to the sceneries around Chicago, you have like their style of pizza, and you go all these places, and they're like, Hey, let's watch a Bears game. Oh, we gotta drive 28 miles all the way out of state to go to Hammond, Indiana.

SPEAKER_03 15:36

How many international fans do you think probably fell in love with the Chicago Bears visiting Chicago and watching a game? Yeah, and now you're losing that forever.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

Yeah, and then they're probably fall in love with the city, and then they're like, Oh fuck, now I gotta go all the way out of state. And you know who that hurts?

SPEAKER_03 15:51

You know who that hurts? That hurts a lot of restaurants, yeah, a lot of bars, hotels, taxi drivers, Uber drivers. You're basically crushing the city the economy by letting them leave. Because every for eight uh for like every home game, maybe almost every game, that city's downtown court probably shuts down for the Bears.

SPEAKER_01 16:09

And we know the NFL is number one when it comes to money revenue for any sport, and so that's a domino effect for all those industries. So if their game is in Chicago, I'll give you, I'll point you guys another one.

SPEAKER_03 16:22

There's another team for sale right now, Seattle Seahawks. Let's say the owner buys it and he says, I want to build a new stadium, right?

SPEAKER_02 16:32

Like you look at where Louis I can see that happening because every NFL team now needs a dome stadium, and they need a dome, and they also need an entertainment plex.

SPEAKER_03 16:41

They need things around it, and and maybe back in the day Lumenfield had stuff around it, now it's dead. Like it is dead.

SPEAKER_02 16:49

Yeah, no, I don't think it ever had anything around it. I think it was built in that area just for that, really for football.

SPEAKER_03 16:56

But I there were bars that were shuttered up, like there was bars around it that would like when you were walking through before COVID, there was there would be like a restaurant or a bar or whatever, and now it's all shuttered up and it's like Because before the men field, I think it was the kingdom. That's in a way different area.

SPEAKER_01 17:10

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_03 17:11

But now, let's say you buy the team and you're like, I want to build a new stadium, right? And I want to build it in. Let's say they built it in Tacoma, for example. Let's just pick Tacoma, Washington. They're like, I want to build a stadium, I'm gonna take all over 200 acres of land, I'm gonna build a new stadium, there's gonna be apartments there, we're gonna build a six flags amusement park. Um, we're gonna build uh a new thing here, whatever. Let's say they did all that. See uh Washington went, nope, uh sorry, uh we're gonna But it is still Washington. No, no, but let's just say Washington goes, no, sorry, we're not gonna use taxpayer dollars, you're gonna have to fund it yourself. So the owner goes, Well, actually, I'm moving to Salem, Oregon. Would like does that make it like how many people in Washington would be fucking absolutely devastated? Yeah, because they and how many people that they have fans of from Canada would no longer be able to go to the games because now instead of a three-hour drive, it's a 10-hour drive.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

So you know what? I'm gonna give you your answer right here, and you're gonna love me for it. Oh, so the reason why I don't think something like that, say the Seahawks moving to Tacoma or the Bears moving to Hammond is gonna be is gonna work very well in terms of money coming in, is because they're not the Dallas Cowboys. 100%. Because the Dallas Cowboys are able to be in their own little city and just feed off that brand.

SPEAKER_03 18:42

You could put the Dallas Cowboys in Arkansas.

SPEAKER_01 18:44

You look at uh you look at how up to the biggest. But no, you could put them anywhere in Texas, right? No, but my what I'm trying to say is you could put the Dallas Cowboys anywhere in Texas, and because their brand is so big and because they have so much money coming in and they have so much money to spend, they can make that little like they could put them in a little town in Texas, and it could be the biggest thing that people just flock to. Because that's what people do with the brand. And they can throw money at it, but these other franchises, they can't do that, and it won't work, and it won't work, it will not work, and that's why, like, even the bears, as storied as they are, it will not work.

SPEAKER_03 19:19

Hammond, Indiana doesn't have a major airport, like if there's no major airport, even in Indiana, like, yeah, they've got one, like they've got one, you can fly down to Indianapolis, but it that's it, like you've got one air, like Chicago's like huge, so it's like, how are you gonna take away from like a major city and put it in Hammond, Indiana? It just doesn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_02 19:39

You gotta look how upset San Diego was when the Chargers moved down the road to LA. Yeah, that was just down that was just and they were upset because it's San Diego, and that's just they don't want it, they don't want LA got two teams in LA, and LA got two teams. Yeah, well, the NFL always wanted LA to have two teams.

SPEAKER_03 19:58

That's a two that's a two-hour drive in the same state, and they were pissed about that. So, no, I feel I feel yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:04

San Diego, it's their own city, right?

SPEAKER_03 20:06

Yeah, I they gotta give them a team back, man. They gotta they gotta give them the give them the bears. Fuck it.

SPEAKER_02 20:11

Yeah, now you want the bears to go to happen in Indiana, all the way to LA. Move them, move them to San Diego. Call them the Chicago Bears.

SPEAKER_03 20:17

Call them the San Diego Bears. Call them the Chicago Bears. Chicago Bears. Keep the name Chicago Bears. Just put a little, like put some sunglasses on the bear. It's fine. It'll be it'll be okay. Um, fellas, let's talk about some trades. Not trade in cities, some some big old trades. Uh, let's start with uh possibly. I love it when the Eagles um are just in a bad spot. I just I you know what? It's an absolute fantastic time. I love it. Uh AJ Brown, Philadelphia Eagles, traded him to the New England Patriots. It finally happened. Finally did. Uh Eagles receive a 2028 first round pick, 2027 fifth round pick. Patriots inherit the remaining four years of Brown's contract, void after 2029. Eagles carry a 16.3 million dollar dead cap in 2026, 27.1 million of that push to 2027. Now, AJ Brown, for those that do not know. All I know is you never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

SPEAKER_04 21:14

What?

SPEAKER_03 21:14

I'm just joking. Yeah, AJ Brown, three-time pro bowler, uh, two-time second team all pro, 67 NFL seasons with a thousand plus receiving yards, 56 career touchdowns. 2025 season, he had a thousand and three yards, seven touchdowns, and 78 catches, career low, 12.9 yards per catch. Won the Super Bowl with the Eagles in 2025, unfortunately. Uh field drama, a frequent social media post, public frustration with his role late in the 2025 season. Was caught reading a book on the sidelines, all that lovely stuff. Reunites in New England with head coach Mike Vrabel, who drafted him in Tennessee 2019, second round. Um, that's immediately for the Patriots. I mean, that's he's your wide receiver one. Uh, you pair him with Romeo Dobbs. Who replaced Stephon Diggs? If Pats did not draft a wide receiver in the 2026 draft, I feel like they knew this thing was coming. Eagles impact. Devontae Smith, now a wide receiver. One Eagles added Marquis, Hollywood Brown, Dontavian Wicks, and of course Matthew. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

Oh. Yeah, Makai Lemon.

SPEAKER_03 22:27

That's for all those Steelers fans listening right now. No, we're all right.

SPEAKER_02 22:30

They're happy, and I think Philly's happy.

SPEAKER_03 22:33

No, everybody should be happy. Howie Roseman traded up for uh lemon ahead of the AJ Brown deal. Had been prep, he had been preparing for this. Jalen Hurts now needs new go-to weapon. I think. I think now is his time. I still have Saquon Barkley. Were you surprised this trade family happened? Um, or do you think this was kind of like inevitable?

SPEAKER_02 22:53

It was evitable. Everyone's waiting for June 1st. We all knew he was going there. Well, that that that is true.

SPEAKER_01 23:00

I I think it's it. I did you I loved his message that he wrote. Did you see the best? When he wrote it on the on his uh little Pro Bowl picture, yeah, signed his name, and then he wrote the best to ever play here, always open. Yeah, right next next response. That's awesome. That's funny. That's good.

SPEAKER_03 23:18

No, I don't think he's the I don't think he was the problem, man. I think he um He wasn't the problem. I think they just I'm glad he decided to leave. I know I don't they didn't give him the ball. I don't think he's has a very I don't think he was a very good quarterback. Now he's gonna get the ball. Well, uh that leads to my second question. What does this do for Drake May's MVP ceiling?

SPEAKER_02 23:37

Raises the bar big time.

SPEAKER_03 23:38

I think it's through the roof now. He goes from having no basically number one receiver to having AJ Brown. Yeah, boy's gonna and we're gonna talk about fantasy football. Don't you guys worry? We're gonna have fantasy football in our coming episode. Might be time to draft AJ Brown, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, it could be. It might be time to draft AJ Brown. Um, fellas, Philly on the other end gets 2028 first. Uh, is that enough? And Roseman made the draft pick in 2022 to get Brown. Um now it costs a first to exit. Uh how do you grade both sides?

SPEAKER_01 24:14

I think it's a fair deal. I don't, I mean, I don't know. What what more could he get?

SPEAKER_02 24:20

They they got rid of a guy that didn't want to be there. Yeah, and you got a first-round pick.

SPEAKER_01 24:24

That's pretty good.

SPEAKER_02 24:25

Yeah, and you replaced him with Makai Lemon for now.

SPEAKER_03 24:28

I think what they've done is tidy business. I feel like this is about as best it's gonna get. Now all the pressure has to be on Jalen Hurts. It is big time. Do it, or you're basically you're you're they're gonna have to replace him next. Because he complained about uh or sorry, AJ Brown complained about every single thing in the world. Jalen Hurts was the opposite. He said everything was fine all year long. He said everything's fine, everything's great, everything's fine, our play calling's fine, this is fine, that's fine, all this and that and more. That division just got a whole lot harder. Did he see all the players leaving his team this offseason? Well, did he see the fact that he couldn't throw it down the field? That too. Yeah, and that fan base is impatient. Very they are impatient. They are not in a place where they are gonna be very happy if they the things start a little bit slowly for the Eagles. I will say, the Eagles schedule.

SPEAKER_02 25:29

You and your Cowboys fans are just so joyful right now, right?

SPEAKER_03 25:32

It's a great thing. I can finally draft AJ Brown on my fans football team. It's gonna be fantastic. It's gonna be great. Uh no, but thanks for giving us the inside scoop. No, but my thing is more so like this is Philly, though. This is Philadelphia. Yeah, they this is what they're known to do. They are going to drive like the fans are gonna run them out of town. The fans are gonna drive Saquon out next.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Yeah. But see, the thing is with a lot of the teams, is you win a Super Bowl or you get older, you can't keep that team together. Yeah, no, none of them really can, but to me, I think it's a good thing AJ Brown left and you got a young player, but now quarterback wise. My you probably gotta start looking at getting someone back in there.

SPEAKER_03 26:15

But the problem was was that they didn't need to get rid of him. They could have even they could have even added Mike Lemon this year. Like, let's just say they did. I don't think they would have if they kept him, but let's just say they did. You still had enough maneuvering with the cap and the finagling that you could do that you didn't really need to get rid of AJ Brown.

SPEAKER_02 26:34

But you can't put all this on Jalen Hurts because it's also the coaching. Well, Nick Siriani, if he's well, okay. The coaching, we we're not throwing the ball to AJ Brown.

SPEAKER_03 26:43

So let me tell you, let me let me tell you the first two games of the Eagles schedule. They play the first game at home against the commanders, they play the second game on the road in Tennessee. If they lose either one of those games, they are fucked. Yeah. The fans are gonna gun for Sirianni's head. Because you lose you lose game one, right? Fuck, we lost to a division arrival. Yeah, but now we're at we were at home. We opened the season. I knew we shouldn't have drafted Mike High Lemon. What a fucking bomb. Blah, blah, blah. Eagles are gonna go nuts. Now let's say they win game one. Oh my god, we lost to the team that drafted first overall. Oh my god, blah, blah. They have to go into week three against the Bears 2-0. They got the Bears and then they get the Rams. So they get two little hard hitters and then the Jaguars, who are not going away either. So their schedule, that first little chunk, is not is not that great. Um, but they do have they have a pretty soft schedule. I'm not gonna lie. Like their schedule is not that hard. Um, it's pretty soft. Like, I mean, they get to play the Panthers, they get to play the Giants. Well, the Giants are in the division, but they get to play Cardinals, Colts. You know, not that, not that crazy. The 49ers in January, the 49ers have been January, but all broken by now. It's it is what it is.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

Now, to me, they this trade for the Patriots that just puts them back together. Well, they're back cooking, right? Like their coaches, their coaches slinging dick, and they're cooking.

SPEAKER_03 28:07

Things are things are happening. Now, speaking of cooking, Miles Garrett cooked himself all the way to the LA Rams. Jared Verse uh going to Cleveland. So announced June 2nd as well. Uh Browns receive Jared Verse, uh, 2027 first round pick, 2028 second-round pick, and a conditional 2029 third round pick. Rams receive Miles Garrett. Now, Miles Garrett, two-time NFL defensive player of the year, back to back, six consecutive Pro Bowls, 10 plus sacks in eight of nine NFL seasons. 2025 season, he had an NFL record, 23 sacks, first team all pro in five of the last six seasons, 30 years old. Browns all-time sack leader, future Hall of Famer, did not request a trade. That is important. Uh Cleveland didn't shop him. Well, he rescinded it. He rescinded the original request back in the day. Uh, then he got paid. Then he got paid. Yeah. Uh Cleveland didn't shop him until the Rams included Verse. Now, who is Jared Verse? Uh, 25 years old, third-year defensive edge, 2024 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year, two-time pro bowler. Um, 2025, he had seven and a half sacks for the Rams. He's still in his rookie contract. Um, the Rams' first first round pick since 2016. And Sean McVay um admitted that parting with Verse was the hardest part of the decision. Um, I'm gonna just ask okay. Very simple. I think I know the answer. Does Miles Garrett at 30 make the Rams a legit Super Bowl contender?

SPEAKER_01 29:36

Yes. Like, I know they were number one odds before. They're way more number one odds now.

SPEAKER_03 29:42

Not Miles fucking Garrett, man. Yeah. And and we haven't even I I haven't even talked about it yet. Haven't even talked about it yet. Aaron Donald potentially coming out of retirement. That would be something to play with Miles Garrett.

SPEAKER_01 29:58

I don't see it happening, but that would be cool. That'd be really cool to see. I think really cool to see.

SPEAKER_02 30:05

I could see him being added in during the season at some point.

SPEAKER_03 30:09

I can see it too.

SPEAKER_01 30:11

That would be scary.

SPEAKER_03 30:12

No, I can see him, I can see them announcing it right now and being like, let's we're gonna we're bringing him back and then not gearing him up until maybe like October. So give him four weeks because he looks in shape and he looks scary. And man, they are gonna be we even if he doesn't come back, I think they're Super Bowl, like they're the favorites right now. Definitely, but he is gonna be something. Uh Verse said he was upset. I mean, you're 25, you're too probable. Oh, you gotta be upset about that leaving a just traded to the Browns out of all places from LA.

SPEAKER_02 30:46

I I gotta apologize to all Steeler friends because I thought the Browns would be ahead of them the season.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

Yeah, not anymore, right?

SPEAKER_02 30:51

Browns are back in the doghouse. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 30:55

Put the dog pound back in the doghouse.

SPEAKER_02 30:57

Jeez, Jared, and in two years, Jared Verse is gone too. Oh boy, oh boy. Yeah, it's probably gonna happen. He's on a rookie contract, he's done, he's gonna be there. Now the poverty franchise.

SPEAKER_03 31:08

Verse said he was upset, right?

SPEAKER_01 31:10

So how do you oh and he showed up in number eight, Dylan Gabriel's eight without even like it's already causing animosity? The Browns just write themselves. They're just like, oh fuck this guy, I'm wearing eight.

SPEAKER_03 31:23

But the funniest thing is they asked him about it. They're like, Did you ask Dylan Gabriel? I was like, no, I didn't. I just know Dylan Gabriel.

SPEAKER_01 31:31

That guy's probably like, fuck, I was in LA and now I'm in Cleveland more than a little bit. Dylan Who?

SPEAKER_03 31:34

Fox. Like, Dylan Who? What? Um, he is from there. He is from he is going back home. But like, how do you process that as a player? Like, if you guys are Jared Verse, like what like how do you get from a Super Bowl contender to like the bottom?

SPEAKER_01 31:46

Yeah, there's a reason why the bottom? There's a reason why LeBron left Cleveland to go to LA.

SPEAKER_03 31:51

Yeah, it's a lot nicer than how what what would you do? Like, how now okay? Now you're 25. You're what how do you process this? Like, what's your first steps?

SPEAKER_01 32:02

Well, I mean, you can't replace Miles Garrett, no one can, but you gotta be a leader on that defense. It's a very it's a very young defense.

SPEAKER_03 32:11

He has to leave.

SPEAKER_02 32:11

Well, what you do is turn into Miles Garrett and get paid and leave.

SPEAKER_03 32:16

Yeah, or if who knows?

SPEAKER_02 32:17

Maybe like a rookie contract, you gotta they did a lot of great things.

SPEAKER_03 32:21

You gotta play well to get your next paycheck. The Browns did a lot of great things on the offensive side of the ball when it came to drafting young players. They did, and they still got Junkkins. They don't really have an answer at quarterback yet, but like you still have other pieces on that defense that make it good. It's more on Jared Verse to show that he is mature enough. The biggest thing about my like, in order to succeed in a market like Cleveland, Cincinnati, uh give me another one, Indianapolis. Uh, what other shitty city are there? A team in what's a shitty city with a team?

SPEAKER_02 32:53

I don't want to name any shitty city with a shitty team. Shitty city with a team?

SPEAKER_03 32:57

Yeah, like what's a shitty city with a team?

SPEAKER_02 32:58

I love I love all teams. No, you don't.

SPEAKER_03 33:00

You just you just hated the fact that you wouldn't want to trade to Cleveland. I uh no, but let's just say like Cleveland, Cincinnati. Uh sure, sure. The New York well no, no, New York, New York is so New York New York Jets, Jets, I guess. Yeah. I think with any of those teams, I think the most important thing to separate yourself about is your maturity and being a leader. Like Miles Garrett isn't Miles Garrett, like yes, he's a phenomenal football player, but he's also no drama.

SPEAKER_01 33:23

Yeah, all business.

SPEAKER_03 33:24

Like you're trading for a guy in LA, you have a wide receiver one that's going insane. Like in Puka de Kuah. And you don't you can't have multiple of those in your in your team. I'm not saying Jared versus that, but I'm saying they're in day he's playing for his next contract now.

SPEAKER_01 33:42

Well, that's the other thing, too, for Verse. Like, were you the player you were under McVeigh? Or was that actually you out on the field making the you'll be able to show up? So he's got to show up day one for them throughout this season. This is a big season for him. It's probably bigger than any season he's ever had. No, 100%, 100%.

SPEAKER_03 34:03

Um, moving forward, I guess there's some trade rumors to watch, and I'll get your guys' take on who you guys think that might be might be next. Um, Alvin Kamara is a name to watch. Uh, Saints reportedly prefer Travis Etienne and Devin Neal at running back going forward. Brandon Ayuk had guarantees removed from his deal. He might be he's going crazy on Instagram right now. I I think he's done. Begging for a trade to go to Washington out of all places. Um, oh yeah. Who's the next domino? Do you think if there's one more trade that happens this year, who who's who's getting traded? Interested to see the Max Crosby watch. Okay. Okay, who gets traded and where to?

SPEAKER_01 34:43

I don't know about this year, but I could see Justin Jefferson getting traded. Just because of the whole QB crash.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

Yeah, if they have another bad season. I know he mentioned that before. Apparently, uh Josh Sweater from the Cardinals once out.

SPEAKER_03 34:57

That was another good one because I think he has his sights set on either like I think he said the QB Goals or another team. I forget now. But like, yeah, I can see him. Max Crosby is an interesting name. I think Jerry got to get it done. Jerry got to make that call, buddy. Let's get it done here. Let's let's get going. I could also see the Cowboys after Alvin Kamara. I feel like that'd be a nice little one-two. That'd be a good fit. Him in him in uh him in um Javante Williams. Yeah, that'd be a nice place, man. Javante Williams, Alvin Kamara, a little one-two slip and slide.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

I mean, I mean another guy might put on the watch is Baker Mayfield now.

SPEAKER_03 35:31

I will we are gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about that. Uh keep hold on to Baker for a second here. Um, actually, well, we'll finish up with the NFL. Then we'll talk about the our most favorite degenerate gambler of all time. Uh, NFL storylines, of course, Jacoby Brissett, uh Brissett 33, entering year two of two of a $12.5 million contract with the Cardinals. I mean, his 2026 salary is $4.88 million base. Only $1.5 million of that is guaranteed. He has skipped all voluntary OTAs, uh, but has agreed to report for mandatory minicamp. Uh, they are two sides are reported to be very far apart, significantly far apart in negotiations. Um now the Gardner Minshew, the backup, he signed to a one-year $5.8 million deal. Cardinals also drafted Carson Beck in the third round. Um now Jacoby Brissett went one one and eleven as a starter in 2025. The Cardinals finished three and fourteen. Career journeyman quarterback holding out for a starter salary. Does he have any leverage here? Is he playing the weekend? He's playing the weekend. He's a backup.

SPEAKER_01 36:41

He is, he's game general, journeyman.

SPEAKER_02 36:44

He's a backup to Kyler Murray last year.

SPEAKER_01 36:46

And he wasn't really he wasn't really showing like great plays. Like, I'm sorry. Just he's a lot of his stuff was garbage time stuff. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:54

No, fuck you, Jacoby. The ball was in his hands to start the season. And how many times the way he's acting, it's probably out of his hands now.

SPEAKER_01 37:02

How many times did he throw the ball too? Like the amount of temps that he had. He was chucking that thing along. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:08

He was basically hurling it at me, and then you got Jeremiah Love now coming in. And like, I mean, I do think the Cardinals' organizational fail was they but the backup has more guaranteed money than the starter. I do think that that is not a good look. And especially if you were gonna draft a Carson Beck, you really didn't need a Gardner Minchu, to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 37:27

So that you have Gardner Minchu and Carson Beck, why do you need Jacoby Brissett? KK hates Jacoby Brissett. I don't hate it, buddy.

SPEAKER_03 37:37

Hey, shut up, you're not worth it.

SPEAKER_02 37:40

He's a backup quarterback that had the starter's job. And now we do this stuff, yeah, like not showing up. Yeah. If you if the Cardinals stop pretending you're a backup, you might end up being number three in the depth chart to start the season.

SPEAKER_01 37:53

KK's right. Stop pretending you're not a starting quarterback. And is there another backup?

SPEAKER_02 37:57

Is there another team out there that wants him as a starting quarterback? Yeah, probably not.

SPEAKER_03 38:01

Probably not, but I bet there's a guy that wants uh team that wants this guy. Baker Mayfield contractor on the ladies and gentlemen. Baker Mayfield is in the final year of his three-year $100 million deal he signed in 2024. $50 million guaranteed at 2026 cap hit. He's got $40 million, $10 million in base salary, $17 million roster bonus, zero additional guarantees for 2026. Mayfield said he and the Bucks aren't anywhere close on a new deal. He has set a training camp deadline, will stop tracking contract once camp opens. His representatives have not even responded to the team's opening offer. Now Mayfield sets a training camp deadline and says they're not anywhere close. Is this a negotiation tactic or is there a real chance he walks as a free agent after this year? I think he's making a very smart move. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 38:51

Yeah. Because he wants to concentrate on winning a Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_03 38:56

Yes. And I think there is a very uphill battle for the Buccaneers to get there. I you know, Ruben Bain love that. Love that there, but it is still an uphill battle. And I think a lot of his is like he is as sad as it to say, because I'm gonna age myself. Is like he's probably working for his last contract. Yeah, and I and I think it's very important for Baker Mayfield to do it the right way. And and I'm proud of him for not being like a diva about it. I think that's what I'll say. I think I'm proud of him because there was this knock on him in Cleveland being like, oh, he's this way, he's this way, he's an improfational, he's not professional, he does this, he does that. And you know what? That is that is a great um that's a great that's a great tactic of it. Now, he's at 33 million dollars a year. Jordan Love makes 55, Goff makes 53. What what do you think his next contract should be?

SPEAKER_01 39:52

It's more than that, more than them for sure. He will get more than that. He will get more from a team. 60, uh maybe just under 60. I could see it.

SPEAKER_03 40:02

Yeah. And if he were to walk next year, is there a dream scenario that he goes to? Well, I got one. I got one.

SPEAKER_01 40:10

I have one. I'll take Patrick Queen's six, give it to him. You can play the Browns as many times as you want.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

I was gonna say maybe Arizona should take a look at signing him in the offseason.

SPEAKER_01 40:19

Baker and Pittsburgh would be Baker and Pittsburgh would be sick. Would be that'd be awesome.

SPEAKER_03 40:23

Like that city that could work too. That city would revere, like they would love him. They would love him, and he would get to yes, put it to the Browns.

SPEAKER_01 40:32

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 40:33

Now, my mine was was a little bit more do you got I got the Browns back to the Browns.

SPEAKER_02 40:40

He's not going back to Cleveland.

SPEAKER_03 40:41

Come on, guys. New new new head new head coach of there.

SPEAKER_02 40:45

Cleveland offers him like 100 million as he's uh I think he's gonna say no.

SPEAKER_03 40:49

You got Deshaun Watson's crazy money coming off the books. You know, you can bring him back in. He's that would be crazy, he'll have a good time, it'll be good times all around.

SPEAKER_02 40:59

I I see if you had like the Jets, the Browns, the Cardinals, the Steelers.

SPEAKER_03 41:05

Well, why not the Vikings? Vikings should be the Viking. I was gonna say the Vikings, Vikings turn off the Vikings should be in there.

SPEAKER_02 41:11

Like you didn't you don't want to be on the bottom of the standings, you want to be.

SPEAKER_03 41:14

Yeah, like you kind of want to be, you kind of want to like look at a team that's like one quarterback away.

SPEAKER_02 41:19

Yeah, especially if it's his last go, his last contract.

SPEAKER_03 41:22

And maybe I don't know, it depends on what Sam Darnold does. I'm just gonna start the train here, but could be Seattle too. Could be Seattle, it depends on what he does. Could be, yeah, it could be very much Seattle, and you know where else he could also be? LA. He could go back to the Rams. If Stafford is yeah, he could definitely Stafford's not wonky health-wise and things aren't working out. Yeah, he could go back and reunite with Sean McVeigh.

SPEAKER_02 41:46

The Rams are probably the front runner now for everybody, for everybody. Well, Stafford's leaving next year.

SPEAKER_03 41:53

Yeah, Baker's coming in. There we go. Upset the Steelers fans. We talked about um Minnesota there briefly, but Kyler Murray versus JJ McCarthy. So McCarthy missed his entire rookie year, as you guys know, with a preseason injury. 2025 McCarthy went 6-4 as a starter, but he threw more interceptions, 12 than touchdowns, 11. Uh, he completed fewer than 58% of his passes, missed time again with injury. The Vikings finished nine and eight, missed the playoffs in 2025. Darnold uh not re-signed. The Vikings instead choosing um sorry, they did not sign Darnold and they gave the reigns to McCarthy. And now they've decided to bring in uh Kyler Murray uh for a good good old time. Uh Kyler Murray released by the Cardinals this offseason after seven seasons. Uh Cardinals owe him, owed him 36.8 million. So Murray signed with the Vikings at veteran minimum. Great deal for Minnesota. Uh career 87 games, 67.1% completion rate, 121 touchdowns, 60 interceptions. Now, the dynamics and what's going on so far. So at OTAs, Murray was described as making all of the best throws, downfield touch and accuracy. McCarthy showed arm strength and efficiency on quick hitters. Um, one ESPN source said the gap was not close, seemingly favoring Murray after OTAs. Um the bleacher report prediction was that Murray will be benched during the 2026 NFL season. Now, between them, Murray on their relationship. Murray said, My confidence is unshakable. I know I'm giving my best effort. McCarthy on Murray. He goes, It's just like two guys in a classroom. He sits on one side, I sit on the other. Murray described it like being in high school, sitting across the room from another student. No awkwardness. McCarthy's tight end, TJ Hawkinson, raved about McCarthy. He said he has that switch and insane arm. Justin Jefferson said, Who's gonna be that dog? Who wins this competition for the starting job? And why?

SPEAKER_01 43:53

I think it's gonna be Kyler Murray, just based off of what he was able to do with what he had and everything. And the fact that JJ McCarthy struggled on his time in Minnesota. I agree with Kyler Murray and him saying that when he was in Arizona, he had all the reps. So he was able to work with first team, get all his reps, and now he's complaining that he has to share the reps with JJ McCarthy, which I agree with. It's like, what has McCarthy done to prove himself that he deserves to get all these reps? You had one good game last year where everyone was like raving that he had this Tom Brady like comeback, but it's like he faltered through most of the year. Donald left, won a Super Bowl with Seattle, and you didn't really do very well. So to me, I think it's Kyler's job day one, and then if he falters, you can give it a JJ McCarthy. But I think you need to give Kyler Murray all the opportunities to succeed, and that's giving him first team reps, all the reps. Give him that ability. Give him like JJ McCarthy's worked with Justin Jefferson and all those other guys. You need Kyler Murray to work with Addison and Jefferson and Hawkinson to kind of build that trust, build the connection and the chemistry. If you're only giving him half the reps, and then on day one, week one, I don't know who they play, but if he struggles, then that's going to be an issue. That's on you. That's not on Kyler Murray. No, 100%.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

I think Kyler Murray wins a job, but it's I like what they said. It's uh two kids in the classroom. They're both fighting for that job. Yeah, they might like each other, but you know, they're they're fighting for that starting job. I don't think they like each other that much. Yeah, they probably don't, but at the same time, they're both fighting for that QB one spot. Yeah, like one of them's not gonna be happy. I don't think um it's like Kyler Murray's a new kid in school, and yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 45:54

Well, Kyler Murray is he kind of probably know he's kind of the opposite trajectory of but you gotta give both of them the same reps to see who can get that job done. Well, I think JJ McCarthy's probably looking at Kyler Murray being like, hey man, that guy was drafted high by his team. They gave him six years before they gave up on him, yeah. And you guys are giving up on me after one.

SPEAKER_02 46:15

Well, he didn't get the job done.

SPEAKER_03 46:16

Well, that's what I mean. That's what I'm saying. They're also in different different stages of their of the team. The Vikings are in win now.

SPEAKER_01 46:24

Yeah. Whereas it's also look at the receivers the Vikings have. Look at the receivers that the Cardinals have.

SPEAKER_03 46:29

The Cardinals always had, yeah. They didn't have Minnesota can be a play on team. Yeah. Do you think they will be? With you guys are saying both saying Murray's getting in. I think Murray's gonna get it, yeah. You're saying Murray as well, Kate?

SPEAKER_02 46:42

I think Murray, I think they're gonna be in a fight to get into the playoffs.

SPEAKER_03 46:45

Do you think they make it in?

SPEAKER_02 46:46

I don't think they're gonna make it. Yeah, I think they're gonna slowly. I think they'll come close, but no. Yeah, I think there's gonna be too many teams just ahead of them.

SPEAKER_03 46:57

I think they they're unfortunately in a very strong division with Detroit and Chicago in there. So and Green Bay.

SPEAKER_02 47:03

But I mean, they weren't far off a year ago.

SPEAKER_03 47:05

So exactly. So a lot of their a lot of their stuff will come down to how great that defense can be. If that defense can steal some games and Callie Murray can be serviceable, I think they might surprise some people. Um, but if that defense is average or takes a step back, they're in deep trouble. Uh, fellas, speaking of deep trouble, uh Brennan Sorsby, Texas Tech. So June 8th, Judge Ken Curry from Lubbock County, in very nearby Texas Tech, uh granted Sorsby a temporary injunction against the NCAA. Sorsby is now eligible to play for Texas Tech in the 2026 season. He will miss the first two games versus Abilene Christian in Oregon State. Wow, what a fucking what a punch. What a power, what a powerhouse school that he's not getting to play. He returns for the Big 12 opener of September 18th versus Houston. Court ruled Soresby would suffer probable, imminent, and irreparable injury if unable to play. NCAA expected to appeal, but the timing of the supplemental draft complicates their options. Case will go to full trial after the 2026 season. So the allegations if you are hiding under a rock and you do not pay attention to college football or what's going on in the world. Soresby replaced approximately $90,000 in bets over four years. He bets covered both professional and college sports, including 40 bets on Indiana football games while he was a freshman with the Hoosiers. He shouldn't be playing. There should be no like, and I know teams right now are like petitioning that we're never gonna play Texas Tech in any sport.

SPEAKER_02 48:53

Georgia, Nebraska. Georgia, I wonder how the other players that were in the same spot that were banned feel now.

SPEAKER_03 49:00

Yeah, yeah. Or all those guys that used to get like a car from a car dealership and they're or the highsman taken away.

SPEAKER_02 49:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:09

Like, give like this is absolute bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 49:13

But it but it's also I think times are changing now. Like we talked about before the NCA and the big college team splitting from their own league. I think this is the start of that.

SPEAKER_03 49:23

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:23

Because the NCA seems to be losing every battle there.

SPEAKER_03 49:26

If the NCAA cannot take care of the situation, I can definitely see a world in which the Georgias, the Alabamas, Ohio States, Texas, Notre Dame, am I missing somebody? LSU, like Texas AM, Texas, who am I, Oregon, all of these schools, you gotta get the picture here, guys. They're all gonna go form their own league. And they're gonna separate themselves because why the biggest driver of NCAA funding is football. And if the NCAA can't like get it together and have a reign on like what's going on, you gotta act.

SPEAKER_02 50:04

Well, well, they they tried to ban him permanently, but they lost in court. Yeah, but the court is like like the maybe maybe the judge got paid off. Well, that's you also look at it like if No, but it's not even it's like how would you feel?

SPEAKER_03 50:14

Okay, let's say you're like a honey badger. Honey badger had a nice tweet. He goes, I got still two years left uh McColllege eligibility. Should I come back? Uh we can hold the court in uh Louisiana. Of course, the you go to a Louisiana judge and the judge bleeds LSU like purple, of course he's gonna go for the favor of it.

SPEAKER_01 50:34

That's what I think.

SPEAKER_03 50:35

Like Lubbock County is like Texas Tech.

SPEAKER_01 50:37

And it's probably Texas Tech boosters.

SPEAKER_03 50:40

Oil money is probably going yeah, I wonder if he goes into the NFL next year.

SPEAKER_02 50:44

Does the NFL ban him?

SPEAKER_03 50:45

I don't think he gets drafted.

SPEAKER_02 50:47

I don't think so either because yeah, he won't make it in the league. Because if you're in the NFL and you're doing what he did, like betting and you're gone on football, you're your your career's over. Yeah, and I and apparently it's like anywhere you're on the team bus, team facility, anything team related, you can't bet.

SPEAKER_03 51:03

But I I don't agree with the statement that his his career was gonna suffer irreparable damage. Yeah, he was gonna go in the supplemental craft, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:11

But also what it is is And he'd been in college for years, is one of his bit things was mental health. Oh, yeah, mental health closet. So now when you talk about that, it's like I feel bad for you, like reinstate you. But do you think it's a mitigating factor? The mental case, yes. I think that's happening a lot lately. But in this case with gambling, I mean probably looked at that a little bit. Because times are changing now, where if you you say I got mental health, that's why I did this. It's kind of like Yeah, now he's you're not you're not getting the severe cards.

SPEAKER_01 51:47

Now he's gonna be under a telescope, though, uh his entire career.

SPEAKER_03 51:51

No, but I I should be. I agree with I know, but no, but I agree with the mental health, for example. Let's just say it mental health. Any if you're suffering from mental health issues, please go get the help that you need. But should he be playing football if he had a no? But my question to you is help. Should help should NCAA should the NCAA then ban all betting ads? Should there be no gambling ads that they should stop taking money from fan uh fan uh fanDuel prize picks, uh, you know, like DraftKings and all these other gambling companies. The NCAA should make it a rule that you can't bet on college at all.

SPEAKER_01 52:26

Well, they should because look how many kids watch football. They're just they're being accustomed to all this gambling, but it's also like they probably won't do it because they make so much money off of it.

SPEAKER_03 52:38

The US in general, like looking at it from a non-US perspective, there's certain things they do, which I don't understand why they do, because it makes it so they're taking a step back, states before, like they were they were very strict on gambling, they were very strict on like you can't gamble in this state, or you can't gamble in this state, and that's where the underground bookies came about, right? Right, and you talk about it with all of the shout-out to the Sopranos.

SPEAKER_00 53:09

All I know is you never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

SPEAKER_03 53:13

The show was premised on them having a whole underground bookie and having a whole underground, like, you know, like betting circle made, and then they started to legalize sports betting and betting in general, but it wasn't legalized in the way that, like, oh, I can go and I can just, you know, bet over under or I can pick the winner of the games. No, I had to do a fantasy thing, which is what we did with underdog and what we did with prize picks, where it's you you can't really bet. You know what I mean? Like you can't bet you can bet on props, you can bet on little other things, but you can't really bet on the game. But by building those apps, they've made it easier than ever to bet. Now kids can open download the app and they can just get their parents' card or get whatever, find a way to get an ID verified or whatever, and they can just go over under. I think he's gonna score more than 13 points. I think he's gonna score under this point, and they're chasing that. And then to add on top of it, now you have prediction markets like polymarket and cashy, and it just keeps going and going and going. So for a country that's so strict on betting laws and having to enforce betting laws, it seems like they've completely caved in. Yeah, it's not even like before it was like you had to go and you had to get out of your house to bet, and you had to go and leave your house to the casino, the sports books, wherever you went to bet. And now it's you can stay in your bed and you can play craps, you can go and play roulette, you can literally have a casino in the palm of your hands.

SPEAKER_02 54:44

But that's the difference between, say, me and you doing that in bedding and a player making a bet.

SPEAKER_03 54:49

Well, the player, the thing about the player making the ball, he should automatically be out. The player making the bet, and I'll take about it like this how would you feel if like you knew that this train was gonna crash into this car at this time? Yeah, and you didn't tell anybody, but you knew, so you stayed home that day. That's the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 55:12

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 55:14

He knew like so-and-so's sick. All right, bet all right, okay, we're gonna put that down there. Or he knew that what they were focusing on in practice, like, oh, we're gonna get it really to this guy, he's gonna get more than four receptions today, thousand dollars on that, yeah. And you have to be hitting them, and you have to be doing large enough quantities and hitting them for the betting companies to flag you. They didn't flag they don't flag you if you're losing all your money.

SPEAKER_01 55:38

Yeah, so my now he's under a telescope. Like, if he goes out on the field and he throws like the worst interception you've ever seen. Say he just throws a total duck in the air and it gets picked off, and player runs back and he goes to make a tackle and he whiffs and it's a pick six, everyone's gonna look at that and be like, Did he bet on that? Did he bet on him throwing a pick six? Like every play now in his career going from now to if he makes it to the NFL is gonna be under a telescope. They're gonna look at him just like, is he betting on his plays? Is he betting on this? Is he betting on that? So the question is like, if you're Texas Tech, why would you want him back? Because they don't really have a very good option at quarterback, they don't have a quarterback, but but they're relying on him.

SPEAKER_02 56:29

But your school is now under a microscope. But I think the NCAA should come down.

SPEAKER_03 56:33

Well, I if this is I don't I don't know what's gonna happen with all these schools that are saying they're not gonna play them this year, like they're just outright coming out being like we don't we don't want to play them. But what like the NCAA has got to come down here and say we don't care how many games you win, you're disqualified from the college football playoffs. Yeah, they they wouldn't that's their right to do that, that's their right to do that, and I think they should just come back.

SPEAKER_02 56:57

But now does Texas Tech take that data court saying, well, they're gonna be in there, they're gonna try and fight it.

SPEAKER_03 57:04

And then, but how what does that and you we talk about microscopes and we talk about like how these players are feeling and all this other stuff, but like what does that do to the players, the other 52 players that are on the team?

SPEAKER_01 57:14

They'll hit the transfer portal or try to like as they can, they didn't feel like they didn't deserve this, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 57:21

Like they don't deserve like none of them did anything wrong, yeah. And like, how does that how's the relationship in the locker room after that? It's worst case scenario for him to go back. Yeah, you're right. I wonder how his teammates feel like how do you think his teammates are like, dude, we're we're fucked, like you fucked us over so hard, and like for what? Like you're fucking over the careers of like you know, and you never know that could be a locker room disruption, right?

SPEAKER_02 57:49

There's like some some guys probably want you back because you're a good quarterback, some guys are probably like, I don't want you to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_03 57:54

But let's say Texas depends what but let's say Texas Tech, but let's say Texas Tech originally their schedule was very easy, they probably would have made the playoffs, right? Yeah, those are prime time games for scouts to watch you in prime time moments. And if you get the and if the NCAA comes down and they say, you know what, you're suspended, we're gonna suspend you, like you're not playing in the playoffs. You just took the livelihood chance. Obviously, if you're a first rounder, talent, whatever, you're gonna get drafted in the first round. But what if you're like a fifth round guy? What if you're a guy that would have projected to go probably undrafted? But let's say you had a really good college football playoff game, and now you're like, he might be a fourth rounder or a fifth rounder, our stock really rised on this guy or rose on this guy, you screwed that guy over. Yeah. So if I am him and I don't know if he can do this, I personally am going to the supplemental draft. Because I don't think he's gonna have a very good year this year, barring all things considered.

SPEAKER_02 58:53

Yeah, I think he probably realized no one's gonna take him in that draft, so he's going back.

SPEAKER_03 58:58

And I went to your point, Matthew, great point you made about how people are always gonna question whether or not he's betting. Somebody should check the Heisman uh bet. Did he go and bet when he got suspended or whatever? Did somebody go out there and make a large sum of uh Heisman bets on Brendan Sorsby to win the Heisman? Yeah, right? Yeah, who who maybe somebody out there was like, you know what? I'll uh Brennan Brennan told me that he's gonna win the case. Uh so we're gonna we're gonna put 15k on him to win the Heisman.

SPEAKER_01 59:30

It's better or any odds for him to make any stat number.

SPEAKER_03 59:34

Exactly. Now suddenly now suddenly uh people should be questioning every bet made on him. Yeah, and eventually sportsbooks are gonna have to ban him from being bettable.

SPEAKER_02 59:44

Yeah, I was gonna say I think that's what they should be doing.

SPEAKER_03 59:47

Like they should they should be doing that now to be like you cannot bet on Brandon Soresby at all, which is kind of embarrassing and very bad. Um I don't know how we're gonna segue into this, but we have to talk about our own bets. So we're gonna segue into we can bet. We can bet. We're not playing, we're not playing. We're gonna we got some NFL picks. We got some NFL picks here for you guys. Um, all right, fellas. MVP. Who do we have? Give me your MVP picks. I mean, Josh Allen's a favorite right now, plus 550.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:20

I don't think he's gonna be my MVP, but I think I'm going with Matthew Stafford to repeat, just because of what the Rams have built up. Okay, but I also got a sleeper pick for later.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:31

Okay, let's hear yours, Matthew.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:33

I got Patrick Mahomes. I think it's gonna be a bounce back year for him and the Chiefs. I think they're kind of building around that defense as well.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:40

Yep. So I got Mahomes. You know where I'm going, fellas.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:44

Oh, yeah, we know.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:45

Dakota Rain Prescott, baby. Freshly single. Um, lost a little bit of weight. He was next on my list. Yep. Uh really bringing back bringing back George Pickens. Got got a defense that's gonna be, you know, somewhat better. You got Caleb Downs in the cut, shoddy hitting the shoddy with them picks. Um, George Pickens, it's gonna be great. The plays are gonna be cooked by Schottenheimer to the absolute perfection. CeeDee Lamb, I look to him to have a bigger year, it's gonna be perfect. Dak Prescott, MVP. It sounds like you got the inside scoop. I've played I've already put in my bet. I've already put in my bet plus 1200, it's gonna be beautiful. Um was that your sleeper? Uh he was one of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:26

The other one is Joe Burrow.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:28

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:29

I think this is the year that guy's got to get it done, otherwise, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:32

I can see that. I can see that. Otherwise, I don't think that's happening in Cincinnati anymore. The other guy that I guess a lot of people probably it goes kind of under the rate is Caleb Williams. I think Caleb Williams could have a have a run there. Justin Herbert's in that conversation.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:46

Like I I got Gibbs and Bijan as my sleepers.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:50

I got Gibbs and I was looking at them, but then I'm looking like I don't think a running back's won MVP for the last 14 years now. I mean it's tough for the running back.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:58

If the Falcons go like undefeated or like full like really good record, then yeah, I can see Bijan and Kevin Stefansky winning coach of the year and all this other stuff. But yeah, uh, yeah, I I I don't know. Uh I don't I'm not I'm not too sure. I'm not sold on the running back there. Um, NFC conference winner, fellas. I mean, obviously the Rams. Uh Seahawks are defending champs. Um, you had the Lions, you got the Packers still there in the NFC, you got the Cowboys, of course, my boys. Um who'd you guys pick for the NFC conference? It can be the same pick. I'm not gonna fault you guys.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:34

I got the Rams, but I also got the Lions. I gotta go with the Lions.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:37

That's actually the two that I had. Yeah, yeah. Well, um, you know, I'm gonna go Rams. Oh, but I I would cry tears of choice. It's just tears of joy. I would like I would lose my shit if the Cowboys got there. Uh, but keeping it one step at a time, I'm gonna go Rams.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:56

Uh Rams will probably that's kind of a shocker for you. You know, going to the Cowboys. Uh you know NFC Clubs winning. Don't you want them to win the Super Bowl?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:05

Every single year. I've always been very elaborate that the Cowboys are gonna win the Super Bowl and this year. Or you just want to jinx them. I don't know, I don't want to jinx them this year, so I'm gonna keep them. I'm gonna keep them to myself. Uh AFC fellas, uh Bills are the AFC betting favorite. Uh Ravens, you got them there. You got the Patriots, you got Chiefs. Uh Mahomes running coming back. Um anything? Anything, fellas? What do you what do we got? I got the Chiefs. Oh.

unknown 1:03:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:31

Yeah, I had Chiefs number one, and then I had a couple sleepers after that.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:35

Who were your sleepers?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:37

Patriots, the Broncos, and the Jaguars.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:40

Ooh, yeah, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:41

I think the Jaguars might be a big sleep.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:43

Jaguars are sneaky, though. They have a sneaky, like, um, if they because they did a lot, they made a lot of noise last year without Travis Hunter playing.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:49

That's true. And they uh they added a yeah, he he's gonna be a guy to watch this year.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:53

Yeah, yeah, like Broncos would be cool too if uh Nick's is healthy. That would be interesting.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:59

Yeah, well the Patriots and the Broncos both got like legit receivers now.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:04

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:05

Yeah, you can't fault the Patriots and and for course Waddle going to Waddle going to Denver is big. Uh, you know what? I'm gonna go with the Bills. Let's let's let's let it ride. New stadium, NFL will rig it for them. Let's go.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:18

I'll say no to the Bills because I still don't think they have a number one receiver. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:22

Maybe they trade for one, maybe they trade for Justin Jefferson.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:26

Yeah, then then they're the backed up. Yeah, yeah, they're back up and so Vikings start off slow.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:31

Jefferson's like, get me out of here, and then they go and they make that big splashy trade. Uh but I don't think that would happen until the offseason. Probably not. Probably not. Uh they gotta go get Stefan Diggs back. They gotta go bring the boy back. Bring the boy back. Uh, Super Bowl pick, fellas.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:48

I've got the uh LA Coliseum shootout rematch, Chiefs versus Rams.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:54

Okay. The Chiefs versus Rams as well, or the Chiefs and the Lions, that would be better for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:59

All right, who's your pick? I've got the Chiefs winning it all. I think they're gonna get back on top again. Jeez, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:06

Either he's either our eligible bachelor has start started talking to a Swifty, or we gotta check what we gotta check what's going on here. We gotta check what's going on here. And uh KK for you.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:17

I had the Rams winning 2024 for the Chiefs. Oh boy. I don't like the lines upset the Rams. Oh boy, and make it to the show, yeah. Um in Hollywood. Now you sound like him.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:28

In Hollywood. Cowboys are gonna win it. The lines are gonna win it.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:30

It would be a beautiful thing. It would be a beautiful, beautiful sight. Um, February 14th, the day of love.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:36

Well, he can't be the cowboys now because is there not his NFC contrast? No, I mean you sound like him when you think it's gonna be uh hold on, I need a little bit of outro. Oh, here we go. Big story in the cow, the cowboys. He's hitting us with the outro.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:50

Yeah, I need a little outro music here.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:53

Let's get that outro of just being there in Hollywood.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:58

All right, all right, here we go.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:59

Yeah, this sounds like Hollywood music.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:01

We got it's February 14th, the day of love. LA skies are blue, the stars are out, the Super Bowl is in town. Everybody's there that needs to be there. The ghost of Tupac reigns over to LA playing the guitar with uh Michael Jackson, hovering over SoFi Stadium Over the SoFi sky, there's a nice breeze. We're gonna have to turn off the outro for now. No, no, it's a nice breeze. It's a nice breeze, and then all you hear in the background is and you're like, what the hell? What the hell is that? It's a bird?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:55

No, it's a plane. No, it's Mike Vrabel going down on Diana.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:00

No, it's a helicopter.

unknown 1:07:04

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:06

It's Jerry Jones coming down from good old Arlington, Texas, to Los Angeles, the state where he made his fortunes, the state where he went, his daughter went to school, and the state he went there to spend more time with his daughter. He realized I'm gonna buy all these apartments near and I'm gonna just start developing them. And he struck oil. Is it time for Jerry to strike oil again? Playing those familiar, familiar faces in the Buffalo Bills. Dak Prescott versus Josh Allen. I won't say a single Buffalo Bills wide receiver because they don't have any. The Cowboys come out to the field. You got Caleb Downs running out there, you got Quentin Williams, Kenny Clark, Donovan Azeraku, Darren Bland, and by God, a man covered in tattoos, and a man who looked like he belonged on the streets of Compton. Max Crosby. Running out to the field, Max Crosby comes out to the roars of Cowboys Nation. Cowboy ATT West, as we call it. The Cowboys fans are full. It's the my heart is full, my glass is full, everything is full. Cowboys Super Bowl champs, ladies and gentlemen. Until next time.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:31

I wish the viewers could see KK. It's Valentine's Day. Are you gonna be allowed to watch it? Just be quiet, KK.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:36

Until next time. We're out of here. We're gone. Um we hope you loved it. We hope you hated it. Uh, whatever you did with it, we hope you uh write to us, write to us redzone blitz podcast at gmail.com. Uh once again, I'm joined by the director of operations Matt, the director of content engagement KK. Um, I'm your host, G, and I'm KK, and I'm Met. And we will see you guys next time. All right, later.